1 or 2 means it basically comes down to who draws it first. Videos! You can be bad and try the 1/3 shot of hitting the Warning, or you can be lucky and draw 3 MST. For Solemn Warning or any other trap card, Forbidden Lance is not an option. I disagree. But they are still considered some of the greatest formats because of interactions required in setting up those gamestates. (DAE le Goyo Strike Trishula xD?). Hope you all enjoyed the video let's see if we can get 200 LIKES! A Solemn Warning to Believers. So we have a new Limited & Forbidden list arriving in a few weeks, possibly even a few days if we follow the trend of the last list. Especially now that everyone's on the triple upstart wagon. And in every single one of those formats there were ways to summon "stun" boss monsters that were incredibly difficult to deal with regardless of what trap cards they were backed by. I remember reading this, and I thoroughly agree. The Performapal Performage (PePe) deck utilized this card extremely well. Information on the ban status of the Yu-gi-oh! Part of the reason Konami banned Solemn Judgment is because no matter how many life points you have left, you can still activate it, since paying 1/2 your life points can always be done. No. I'm just going to copy/paste some things Joe Giorlando had to say about warning over on DGZ last month, because I think he says things about this sort of thing better than I can: The formats you could play triple Warning (or double) were completely fine. What do you think? Being a counter trap, you can't do anything about Warning. Nada. Another interesting alternative is putting a "pokemon system" where both players draw 5, set what cards they want / can set then proceed with the game. It's either second turn player's fault for not playing around it or first turn player's fault for drawing 6 on first turn. I just have a difficult time thinking there is ONE reasonable card currently legal that can stop cards like Spellbook Magician of Prophecy or Geargiarmor. Before, most decks would have an answer to Warning in the form of Solemn Judgment. It has a large cost and is unusable late game. Remember to Subscribe for more Yu-Gi-Oh! Sign in with Facebook. Something like bottomless, dprison, compulsory, torrential, etc. These allow first turn player to inherently start out with a much higher advantage than their opponent. An established board with a set Warning is practically unbeatable. 몬스터를 특수 소환하는 효과를 포함하는, 몬스터의 효과 / 마법 / 함정 카드가 발동했을 때에 발동할 수 있다. These two are great solutions to it: a) First Turn Player doesn't draw b) Threat of mass removal like Heavy Storm. It was balanced once, but I don't think it is any more. What about cards like Abysspike and Spellbook Magician of Prophecy? Solemn Judgment can negate summons that don't use the chain, by waiting until the monster is placed on the field, then negating the summon before it counts as being successful. Bottomless can return to 2 for all I care, the problem with warning is, as OP said, that it's very hard to respond to and forcibly "ends the turn" for many decks. WITH the cancellation of the grand procession, “pahalik” and other traditional activities, Quiapo Church officials were hopeful that devotees will have a more solemn celebration of the Feast of the Black Nazarene Saturday, January 9, 2021. Then don't play upstart. "Normal summon Bear/Geargiarsenal/Abysspike/Yamato?". "In the formats where triple Warning was legal, that was not necessarily the case though. If we reduce the strength of the cards we can open with, we make "auto-win" less of a possibility. Essentially it boils down to the fact it ends your opponents turn, and is unanswerable. Triple Warning forces you to completely rethink how you build your deck and what you have to play around. Negation doesn't take skill. I'd much rather have to set up with Seven Tools than get to use Lance as freely as it is used. But now that Judgment has gone, Warning is significantly more powerful. Add to my study list. Zilch. Warning is stopped differently then other cards; a testament to a player's ability to read cards and play around them. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, MSTTVOscar (2016 Nats Top 64, 2017 Nats Top 32). The cost isn't that steep. Warning is by far the best choice out of all the traps in the cardpool at the moment. can you prematurely flip trap stun when you're going second against a 4 backrow board? Like having Infection Infestation to stop the obvious traps or Lance to stop the BTH on Bear. EDIT: Use Rediquette guys, if you disagree, don't downvote. Effect veiler acts as a 1 for 1 if it stops a monster from generating advantage, but it FT player has not lost that monster. You can only have, maximum, 2 copies of a "Semi-Limited" card in your Main Deck, Extra Deck, and Side Deck combined. North Korea says missile test was ‘solemn warning’ to South Korea. If you have any questions regarding how to use "Solemn Warning," go to "FAQs Related To … Copyright © 2020 YuGiOhBanList.com and YuGiOhBanList.com. I'm sure we've all experienced that feeling of opening with Solemn Warning and breathing a sigh of relief. Just like other trap cards, warning can be stopped, contrary to your opinion, seven tools, pre-emptive trap stun, MST all stop warning, not to mention countless more. Search solemn warning and thousands of other words in English definition and synonym dictionary from Reverso. Summoning Tengu and setting Warning may not get the job done now, but it was almost devastating a few years ago. TCG official rules for "Solemn Warning." Lemme guess you want heavy storm back too? Which again, I do not think is a bad thing. At higher competitive play, a negated first turn summon (ending your turn) can be the end of the game for you. It seems a lot of people here haven't played past locals level. There are better cards for different decks, against Samurai you'd want Torrential, against Fire Fist you'd want Bottomless, against Constellar you'd want compuls. How do we fix the real problem (first turn player gaining advantage): Well. Zero. Forbidden/Limited List Discussions I find this thread extremely ironic actually.Complaining about a card's placement on the banlist doesn't get you to be more competitive, heck its one of the scrubbiest things you can do. One day it could come back when the game goes to ridiculous speeds again, but for the current MetaGame, Warning is unhealthy. ... just bought a solemn warning for my new deck, really hope it doesnt get banned xD. Otherwise, you have no other out to the situation, you just accept the warning stopping your summon. Comment. I'll explain my reasons, and I'd like to hear some feedback. You cannot negate the activation of a card that cannot Special Summon a monster, such as Lightning Vortex. I'll try to make it. Do you see the trend now? Trap card, Solemn Warning, is Limited in Advanced Format tournament play, and Limited in Traditional Format tournament play. 그 발동을 무효로 하고 파괴한다. Your opponent has two level 4s on board and is going to go into exciton/tiger king/constellar omega next turn; what would you rather topdeck, Warning, or Torrential? Cards that are "Forbidden" cannot be used in your Main Deck, Extra Deck, or Side Deck. We need traps that actually do something. We all understand how warning is the best trap. It's not a combo piece, it does all this work on it's own; much in the way of Heavy Storm and Monster Reborn. You can only have 1 copy maximum of a "Limited" card in your Main Deck, Extra Deck, and Side Deck combined. [Published by n. bangs and j. emory for the tract society of the methodist episcopal church, new york, between 1824 and 1832, monographic, 1824] Pdf. Warning is significantly more powerful in slower formats. Nombre en Español: Advertencia Solemne: Efecto: Paga 2000 Puntos de Vida. Do you remember the time when warning was at 2 and judgment at 1? card game, video games, or fans of the Yu-Gi-Oh! The normal summon has never been more important in the meta, and Warning is the perfect answer to it. It's not degenerate, it's just really, really good. Royal Oppression, Solemn Judgement, Imperial Order, Trap Dustshoot and Time Seal are all cards that just say "No" to your opponent attempting to do anything. Only 1 card a day. That's why I think Warning should be gone. There really is no perfect approach to this question. SOLEMN PROPHETIC WARNING given by Stanley Frodsham. We should all be familiar with this card, and know why it's the best trap in the game at the moment. Negation takes not being completely ***** stupid. Since there is no way we can make a rule that says "the FT player cannot have Solemn Warning" in his opening hand, the card needs to go. Do good players random MST or play seven tools? In a format such as this one, FT player opening warning means there is a very high chance the game will be decided next turn. Forbidden Cards Cold Wave Mass Driver Goyo Guardian Restriction Cards Blackwing - Kalut the Moonshadow Book of Moon Dandylion Gateway of the Six Honest Semi-Restriction Cards Archlord Krystya Card Trooper Debris Dragon Icarus Attack Megamorph Overload Fusion Royal Tribute Solemn Warning Spirit Reaper No Longer Restricted Chaos Sorcerer Demise, King of Armageddon … If I'm making a summon that MUST go through and I even suspect a Warning is down, then I'll prematurely flip Trap Stun. In the traditional format you can use two Solemn Warning as opposed to one. Decks that rely on normal summon, or protecting the one monster (yamato, ophion) normally have answers in the form of lance/pandemic and 3 MSTs. And in terms of what monsters produce that every turn advantage. Essentially, a resolved warning will end your opponents turn outright, and give you another turn in the game. (The upstart comment was just an offhand mention, I didn't realise it would get such a response). It is a solemn warning, when we consider the subject Jesus is upon. I know you want to be able to comeback over the top of what your opponent does, but these formats required deckbuilding strategies that allowed that regardless of the amount of Solemns. Not only were they able to end turns on Solemn Strike and Solemn Warning, but Infinity would provide another layer of negates. FT player starts with the advantage (6 cards to work with) over their opponent (5 cards to work with). Which isn't true. The problem is, going 2nd and setting up a Trap Stun forces you to go 4th instead of 2nd. Warning, Judgment, Double BTH, or Fiendish, BTH, Prison, Mirror? anime series or manga. With a UCG.org account you will be able to save items to read and study later! The issue is that the first-turn player being to set-up, not warning being degenerate because it's too strong. A card I'd like to see on the Forbidden section of the list is Solemn Warning, and hopefully others will agree with me that it needs to go. Perfect response. 3. Freak Yugioh Card Proxies (Anime, OCG, TCG) Want to request a custom card? Solemn Warning Yu-Gi-Oh! It is a solemn warning, when we think of the person who gives it. Mystical Space Typhoon as a preemptive strike is not guaranteed in a blind-MST which we all assume is a very poor game decision. Our Privacy Policy contains more information about how we use cookies. Games (and matches) are literally decided based on this card early game. At best, it's a 1 for 1 that stalled your opponent's push. In formats where we had 2 warning, 1 judgment, people still played it. This includes a battle phase which may deal too much damage to give second turn player a chance to deal with any Traps FT player may have set. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Times have changed since it was originally banned in the TCG, and today it seems many players either overestimate or underestimate the inherent power of Solemn Judgment. None. In addition most monster effects activate on the field or when sent from the field to the graveyard so a warning will stop them by negating the summon. No hand trap will ever deal with a Counter trap card. Or sign in with one of these services. Solemn Judgment got banned for that specific reason. I think it needs to go, and the game will be slightly better off without it. Does Forbidden Lance Protect my Green Gadget from Solemn Warning after my opponent pays cost? The cost is irrelevant because of upstart. The following are excerpts from prophetic words given to one who was under a heavy anointing. And I know, comparing Dragon Rulers to the creatures we used back in the day may not seem fair, but what you need to take into consideration is the level of dominance those decks had over their respective formats. Trap issue is similar to the way Seven Tools was used to combat cards like Solemn Warning back in the GK, Saber, Samurai, Plant days. Konami banned this card on the April 2016 banlist. At the end of the last article (In September 2017 actually), I had a fully automated regression testing system for IPXWrapper. Again, the issue is the first turn player getting to set-up. Warning wasn't as great as let's say, Bottomless, in the dragon format, but it was a key card before than, and it a great one now. Opening warning to stop a summon is as degenerate as opening any other trap in this situation; therefore, the issue is that the first turn player has too much advantage being able to set-up and not warning being the problem. Holy hell people, do you see where I'm going with this? Warning is easy to play around, especially with everyone running triple MST and lots of decks running Trap Stun. Cookies help us deliver our Services. If the previous R4NK monsters were a problem, this is an even bigger one. Contrary to popular belief, upstart does not mean you're playing a 37 card deck. I never said traps were bad, I just think warning (in the current game state) is too good. "My argument is almost always going to be predicated on the idea that if you think back to all of the greatest formats in this games history, a good percentage of them not only had multiple Solemns legal - people played multiple Solemns. Some other ways would be that FT player has a threat that limits them from setting too much that hinders the second turn player too much (i.e., Heavy Storm or another turn 1 mass removal). Triple Warning literally creates a ripple effect in how the game is played - and I think in a good way.". Let's all also assume that Warning is never going to be a trap cards you set on its own. Sign in with Twitter Maybe I am living in the past and the direction of the game has passed me by too much.". Being able to constantly stop Geargiarmor is not a bad thing (Warning somewhat kept GK Spy in check back in the day). Sure, we have Wolfbark and Bear. The problem is the only viable way to counter a warning is to run either trap stun (and use it potentially for nothing) or seven tools (which doesn't make sense, cause you'd be running a card just to answer another in your opponents deck, and even then, you'd have to set seven tools and go off the next turn, risking MSTs... 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