On the other hand if everyone died of starvation, well, thats not a very good ending to any film. The people of Arendelle, drawn by the brilliance and radiance of Elsa's castle, could have attempted to make the trek up the mountain, only to succumb to the cold or the treacherous cliffs. This isn't to say there aren't some wonderful touch points from the storyform found in the actual film. Log in. This story point increases the conflict between the Main Character and Influence Character. Accuracy: A team of editors takes feedback from our visitors to keep trivia as up to date and as accurate as possible. This is part of the problem with ret-conning the story and jamming in this entire plot without establishing anything about it in the first movie. What better place to explore the problems of attraction and what people think of you than in a story where the two principal characters struggle with what they're allowed to do and what others are imposing on them. The main issue of the story is that Dr. Alex Murray has mysteriously disappeared while working on a secret government project. To be fair, there were some bones of a good story here, but the movie failed to capitalize on any of them, and instead we were left with a contrived narrative and a too-rapid conclusion that, for me at least, felt utterly unearned and unsatisfactory. Competing personal points-of-view (i.e., who is the Main Character?) Peter says the sibling storyline unlocked potential for depth of story and emotion that was lacking in initial stages. Necessary? This all leads back to Elsa and Anna’s parents. Elsa is a water-bender, essentially, and it makes her feel isolated. Treating them as savages of any kind, whether violent or noble, is pretentious and bigoted. It doesn’t make sense. But how does Anna respond? Permission). There were many moments I found myself smiling or laughing or just immersed in the action, but few where I found myself surprised or relieved or really drawn into the conflict. Frozen took this approach and secured for itself a place within the grand tradition of beloved Disney animated features. I imagine that spending 4 days completely frozen and in sub 0 temperatures that most, if not all, of their crops would fail that year. They love it for the princesses, the magic and the cool water horse. This is Frozen Story. Native people are just that: People. The [Dramatica][1] theory of story refers to the structure of an argument as a storyform. She never told him? The rest? This story point increases the conflict between the Main Character and Influence Character. We learn of a story that they heard from their father as young girls, about how their grandfather and his men built a dam for the tribal Northuldra people of an enchanted forest to the north, and how the whole thing ended in blood and tears and the forest was put under a dark spell. Create a story that functions like the mind's problem-solving process and enjoy becoming part of a legacy. They’re in the middle of a crisis. Avoid plotholes while writing more stories. and a weak Objective Story Throughline that starts and stops as it sputters along (if it's so cold, why don't you guys just go inside?) These Issues of Attraction and Consequences of Conscious aren't random; they work in harmony with the thematics already there in the final product. Since its release, the animated sequel to Disney’s biggest animated feature has nabbed over $700 million worldwide. I want one. This bit of structure weakens the Main Character's ability to resolve the issues at hand. Anna was one year old now and Elsa was four. None of it adds up. “Frozen embryos take up very little space,” Dr. Sherman Silber, director of the Infertility Center of St. Louis, said. Fearless optimist Anna teams up with rugged mountain man Kristoff and his loyal reindeer Sven and sets off on an epic journey to find her sister Elsa, whose icy powers have trapped the kingdom of Arendelle in eternal winter. From the outside Elsa looks poised, regal and reserved, … Do neither of them care whatsoever about Kristoff’s well being? Realizing that love, not fear, reconciled the two sisters (Relationship Story Solution: Deduction), Elsa can now use her powers for good, boldly providing joy to her subjects (Influence Character Resolve: Change and Influence Character Solution: Proaction*). I want a pet reindeer that talks to me when I’m down and a pet snowman that never melts and never shuts up. He also picks bad times to ask, like on the start of their adventure to the enchanted forest when there’s obviously way too much going on. But I guess their father didn’t know this somehow? Oh, and how come nobody over the past however many decades thought to destroy the dam? But the waters close to Japan have not held many fish for decades. Factoring in all the other thematic choices made--everything from the Story Outcome of Success to the Relationship Story Focus of Non-acceptance to the Influence Character Solution of Proaction--the story requires Anna's Critical Flaw to be Attraction. we then move right into White Savior territory. Assuming her place within the story (as Audiences do with Main Characters), we become just as blind to that attraction. I admit, I did really enjoy that horse. ... the problem … Anna basically asks him to make out in the carriage and instead he tries to ask her to marry him, but starts by reminding her of her doomed romance with Hans. King Lewis, Queen Elizabeth, and Elsa were asleep now and Anna was the only one still awake. (Note: Much of Frozen 2 appears to be a reaction to the reaction the first film received for not including many people of color and for “whitewashing.” The problem with how Frozen 2 handled this is that they really couldn’t up and change the race of the lead characters, so instead they just had them retroactively become half Northuldra. My nine-year-old son was three. Today is the three-year anniversary of “Frozen,” and I want to celebrate it with you all; though not for its sharp or witty humor, nor its unique love story. © 2020 Narrative First. Or their own ability to navigate a strange land in the pitch black? Main Characters are as blind to their Critical Flaws as much as we are to our own. Every time Anna tries to delve into why her sister won't talk to her (the "Do You Wanna Build a Snowman" song or her first time to the Ice Castle) the tension between the two sisters … Anna goes to find her lost sister, and one thing leads to another and pretty soon there’s a story of betrayal and true love and you know the rest. Olaf and Sven were the only parts of the movie that I didn't really have a problem with. “You could put a whole city in a lab.” So Elsa is basically the Fifth Element, I guess. This is, I’m afraid to say, the “noble savage” portrayal of indigenous people to a tee. The problem in a story is called the conflict.Also the solved problem is called the solution. Frozen 2 suffers from problems similar to many of Disney's live-action remakes. Since when is Anna the super jealous, paranoid type? Frozen opens up by setting the stage for the problems between the two sisters. Fortunately, the young man says, his people have a special way of proposing that’s bound to get her attention. Let me know on Twitter or Facebook. Frozen Fire is a philosophical thriller about the nature of reality by Tim Bowler. She climbed onto her sister's bed and smiled. But later on, at the enchanted forest, he says to her “Under other circumstances, this would be pretty romantic” (or some such) clearly indicating that the enchanted forest could be a romantic getaway if they weren’t there to free it from a dastardly curse. Frozen Trivia Questions & Answers : Movies D-G This category is for questions and answers and fun facts related to Frozen, as asked by users of FunTrivia.com. Kristoff with his "fixer-upper" song (Deficiency) and Elsa with her "Let It Go" performance (Permission) provide the necessary challenge to Anna's own personal issues. . The closer a story mimics these processes the less chance for story "holes" and the more it will feel complete. Anna’s heart has turned to ice, and the ice is insidiously spreading through her whole body, swallowing and devouring her humanity. Or why not invite the leaders of the Northuldra to Arendelle and then kill them there, or have them ambushed by “bandits” on the road? In fact, I’d say that Frozen 2’s lack of compelling or catchy tunes is its very biggest problem. It’s just not a very good movie, at least when compared to the original Frozen. Same with Hans in Frozen. In the original Frozen, the conceit is quite simple. Clearly, that’s not what Kristoff meant. The problem with how Frozen 2 handled this is that they really couldn’t up and change the race of the lead characters, so instead they just had them retroactively become half Northuldra. As Aurora narrates, Maleficent was "both the villain and the hero" of the story after all. The few remaining soldiers put up a quick resistance but buckle immediately. Think of the villain from Tangled. The main characters of Frozen love making sacrifices—Elsa shutting herself in to protect Anna, Kristoff sending Anna home to Hans, Olaf melting by the fireplace so that he could keep Anna company, and Anna giving up her life so that Elsa could live. And Olaf, who was—once again—quite funny this time around. 'Frozen II' is breaking box office records and delighting young audiences everywhere, but it fails ... [+] utterly to live up to the original. The visuals in general were stunning, and at times the forest looked very nearly real. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, but having your characters act really, really out-of-character just to further the plot is a bad idea that makes otherwise fun characters seem stupid or insane. The recipe for success? I hate to be a stick in the mud, but Frozen deserved a better sequel. Without it, the story would last two minutes. And ultimately, there’s no real resolution beyond a forced happy ending with the Arendellians and Northuldra united by a marriage that, well, is full of its own problems as noted above. Also, why does every member of the Northuldra look somewhat Native American or maybe Inuit, but then their mom is just completely white? Could he be in trouble? How is he supposed to propose to her when she doesn’t even know where he is? Both sister and boyfriend-to-be usher forth similar thematic substance in song (Influence Character Issue: Deficiency vs. By saying “What, do you mean with somebody else?” which, I’m sorry, has to be the stupidest line in the whole movie. (As in Frozen, a previous attempt by a dopey prince's "true love's kiss" totally fails.) Surely she and Elsa would have at least spent the night in the Northunlra village instead of leaving in the dark to hurry on their quest? Ugh. Kristoff could just be patient instead of all needy and weird. Absolutely. So then Kristoff sings a funny song about being lost in the woods and ditched by his girl, and it’s purposefully over-the-top like some 80s heartbreak ballad, but even it falls flat thanks to the poor build-up and shoddy writing. For instance the Objective Story Issue of Attraction, could use some attention. Suddenly Elsa is hearing voices, and an elemental spirit shows up at the Arendelle and puts out all the fires, starts an earth quake and forces everyone out. What if, instead, King Runeard, had still been alive, living as a hermit in the enchanted forest? In fact, we don’t even really ever learn how exactly the fighting broke out in the first place, or why a presumably pre-agrarian society would want a dam to begin with (or why such a society is in Europe when it’s so clearly Native American). But how does this lead to the fight? My hunch is that the box office success is largely due to two factors: First, people are curious to see what happens with Elsa, Anna, Kristoff and Olaf after a six year hiatus. It made her villainy that much more unspeakable and horrific, her betrayal of her “daughter” that much more despicable. The Northuldra are the latter. Elsa, the sister with the magical power to whip up a snowstorm, has been told to conceal her supernatural ability from everyone, but “the more she suppresses it, the worse it comes out . . . The view from Anna grows from that moment, placing her in the position of Main Character, an intent of Author verfied in a recent interview: ...it's a little Shawshank-y where it's Anna's story but it's really about Elsa...we go through her eyes, so she's technically the protagonist... Anna works as both Main Character and Protagonist within the Objective Story (Dramatica differentiates between the two). According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, the noble savage is “an idealized concept of uncivilized man, who symbolizes the innate goodness of one not exposed to the corrupting influences of civilization.” (TV Tropes is another good source.). Surely some of the other Northuldra would have come to the same conclusion and found a way to destroy it? As in Elsa from a recent Disney film you may or may not have heard of, “Frozen.” ... “A good story, issues to think about and wrestle with,” Kaufman told me. While that film’s central conflict was really between the two sisters, having a compelling and deadly villain certainly helped bring the final act together. She neglected, abused, and withheld things from Cinderella for the benefit of her own children. The problem? Or something. Then, when he’s finally able to get her to pay attention to him for more than two seconds, he puts his foot in his mouth. Pretty much the entire movie is made up of largely forgettable songs, and since they come every few minutes in a steady, sonic barrage that’s kind of a big deal. The storyform calls for Investigation which works perfectly for what is already there in Frozen. By playing out the conflict of what it feels like to have your own sister think less of you against the consequence of everyone feeling the same way, the film could have added a nice thematic subtext to Anna's journey. End of story. Why would she freak out when he says they might die, knowing full well the risks they’re taking? Frozen will endure in the hearts and minds of so many people because of the solid storyform at the center of it all. He could have just invaded in force and probably saved a lot of treasure in the process. In other words, Anna's attraction to others diminishes her ability to save the day. “‘Frozen’ uses the idea of magic powers as a metaphor for coming of age, a time when feelings are raw, unpredictable, terrifying and new,” writes Britt Hayes at ScreenCrush. "Timeless themes" communicate loud and clear when presented within the framework of a solid argument. Like it's massive Winter-blockbuster sister and equally dysfunctional narrative Titanic, Frozen will continue to live on because of the emotional argument carried out within this key throughline. The way Fallon sings it is pretty much how I hear it in the movie: Were there parts of Frozen II that I did enjoy? It seems like a very small tribe, very far from Arendelle’s borders. She discovers the truth about her grandfather, who had built the dam not to help the Northuldra, but to bind them to his power. True love has different faces. I just want to know your experience, view, and opinion regarding this, and this post is NOT intended to start another difficult discussion. Anna is a kind, compassionate, brave person. 12. Sure, King Runeard attacks the Northuldra leader, but he does so in secret. As her powers are revealed, the responses of those in the castle remind Elsa of how her parents reacted that first day and she flees (Influence Character Problem: Reaction). They are a backdrop to a story about two princesses. (Though, um, not really a surprise.). Well, finally I got a topic for discussion post and I decided to write it right now (which is already late night here). While Anna and Elsa both provide personal points-of-view, once Elsa sings her song "Let it Go" that initimate view into her struggle fades. Elsa makes her way, alone, to a frozen island where there’s a frozen river called Ahtohallan where she discovers that she’s the fifth primal spirit alongside water, fire, earth and wind. It also works with Anna and Elsa's Relationship Concern of Conscious. The novel was first published in 2006. (Or, in this case, the Sami people). While that may sound inconsequential when compared to the loss of life, it plays stronger thematically against Elsa's issues of letting go and being herself. Frozen II has made a big box office splash over the Thanksgiving holiday. The novel was first published in 2006. The problem in Cinderella was the greed of the stepmother. To combat this, Anna responds the only way she knows how: by giving Elsa the kind of love and consent her sister deserves (Relatoinship Story Direction: Acceptance). In fact, her impact on Anna wanes at this moment, allowing Kristoff to saddle in and take the Influence Character hand-off from Elsa. There were funny and touching moments throughout, especially between Olaf and Anna. All of this is, again, merely allegory for a young woman’s coming of age … Furthermore, it occurs to me that the film gets perilously close to “noble savage” territory. Nobody tries to stop Anna from destroying the dam—or rather, nobody really tries very hard. Then again, it’s also more than a little silly that Anna just bails on him entirely. I write about video games, TV and movies. Try using the computer like this and see if it freezes again. Every time Anna tries to delve into why her sister won't talk to her (the "Do You Wanna Build a Snowman" song or her first time to the Ice Castle) the tension between the two sisters mounts. And what’s the big rush to propose anyways? It’s just a guy standing on a rock surrounded by reindeer? Her power is too strong and she doesn’t know what to do with it, so even as a girl she begins shutting out everyone close to her, including her sister, Anna. What do you think is the most difficult topic to discuss between Frozen fans? Anna is a twit in Frozen 2, and it’s completely out of character. While catchy songs, charming vocal performances, and a lush color palette contribute to the film's success, the story itself is dysfunctional. The sequel is directed by Chris Buck and Jennifer Lee, the same team as presided over Frozen, which grossed $876m worldwide, and won two Oscars (for … Another problem with the ending that Ive been thinking about is food. Anna is cured by magical forest trolls, but to prevent any future accidents, their parents decide that Elsa must hide her powers until she learns to control them They also erase Anna’s memories of Elsa’s magic without telling Anna why Elsa must avoid her. Two princesses are raised by their parents in a palace, but one is cursed with superhuman powers over snow and water and ice. It doesn’t work.). 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